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Published in The National Post on August 1, 2006

Illusionists who aren't afraid to cry: The Boys may well be men now, but they're still kidding around

You arrive with serious and worthy questions in hand. After all, the Beastie Boys are genuine icons. They're here to promote an independent film. Their press kit humourlessly instructs us to shorten their moniker - if we must do so at all - only to "B-Boys," and not "Beasties." There was that whole political turn and their long-time Tibet fixation. And Adam Yauch, the grey-haired Beastie (sorry ... B-Boy) who directed that new movie, is wearing a sports jacket.

They're in town, purportedly, to discuss Awesome; I F---in' Shot That, the innovative new concert film cobbled together from footage taken on hand-held cameras given to 50 fans at a 2004 date at Madison Square Garden. But after more than two decades together, they're so adept at riffing off each other that structured conversation is more or less impossible.

On this day, much of their material revolves around Horovitz's limited acting career, with him playing the part of the seasoned Hollywood veteran and lecturing his bandmates on the tricks of the trade. But more or less every topic becomes an excuse to go off on a different tangent.

A simple opening question on where their press tour is taking them leads to an extended bit on wanting to go to Regina, but being snubbed by all the "cooler-than-thou filmmakers" there who refused to take them seriously as artists.

A query about maintaining a youthful fan base into their forties somehow leads to an extensive discussion about Horovitz's father (playwright and screenwriter Israel Horovitz) working out at the same gym as Jay-Z and allegedly walking up to Yauch and telling him to "Google me, bitch."

Asking about their views on unauthorized video of their concerts leads Diamond into a monologue about the danger of letting audiences see them sweat. ("We're illusionists, like Penn and Teller or Siegfried and Roy. Sometimes, after about an hour into the show, we might actually break into a sweat. Now, if someone in the audience randomly takes a picture, and that sweat is depicted in said picture, that then ruins said illusion. It ruins it for the fans, and that's what makes me cry.") And then there's the final, innocent question about future projects, which leads to this:

Yauch: What if there was a movie starring Anthony Kiedis and Dom Deluise as [Kevin Smith's Jay and Silent Bob characters]?

Diamond: Much better. Big improvement. I'd greenlight that right now. You hit that one right out of the park.

Horovitz: You know a good hard-core band name? Penalty Box.

Yauch: Oh, that's Canadian. What about a Chinese punk band called Youth in Asia?

Diamond: Okay, can I wrap it all together here? Dom Deluise, Anthony Kiedis, buddy movie, both on a hockey team. Penalty Box is the name of the movie.

Yauch: But they'd have to be playing Silent Bob and the other guy. Maybe it's that they're on a hockey team, but the conflict is that they also have a punk band called Penalty Box, and the coach doesn't like punk bands.

Diamond: Ooohhh, that's good. I like that. (Gets up to take a cell phone call)

Yauch: Oh, that's Hollywood calling. Mike, did we get the green light?

Much of the humour is in the delivery, rather than the apparently improvised material; at the point of their relationship where they finish each other's sentences, all three have their comic timing down pat. But even when it occasionally falls flat, it's reassuring to see them gunning only for laughs.

Long having straddled the line between piss-taking pranksters and serious artists, New York's favourite white rappers seemed a couple of years ago to be heading a bit too far in one direction.

In one of their few moderately reflective moments, they seem to recognize that the more politicized tone of 2004's To the 5 Boroughs - particularly the song In a World Gone Mad, released early to express their opposition to the Iraq war - was not a complete success.

"Maybe In a World Gone Mad wasn't the strongest song," Yauch concedes. "We could've worked on it more. We just wanted to get something out there, and we kind of threw that together."

Asked about other rappers who've gone political, Yauch expresses his admiration for Public Enemy. "But more often than not," he allows, "it seems like you end up stumbling trying to do that stuff."

With a new DVD aiming solely at entertainment value - Awesome is loaded with extras that are basically comedy set pieces - the Beasties might be heading back to their comfort zone. But this is what they do best, and at this point in their careers they seem perfectly fine with that.

Asking how they're gauging the success of their film, one expects another tongue-in-cheek response. But for once, they give the straight goods. "If it's funny," Horovitz says evenly, "then I think we've succeeded."







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